Signs you may be covering for a pastor who abuses the flock spiritually:
- You've noticed a pattern of people leaving the fellowship, but you hesitate to ask your pastor about it and don't like to delve into the reasons behind the exits.
- You've seen your pastor act in retribution for slights or criticism by removing people from ministries, publicly or privately shaming them or refusing to listen to them.
- You excuse your pastor's wrong behavior: He's young (or he's old), he doesn't understand the people who are unhappy, he has a little trouble relating to people, he'll grow out of it, I'm probably not seeing the whole picture, God will show him his weaknesses and he'll handle things better soon, no pastor is perfect in every way, he's such a good preacher that we can overlook the other parts of his calling.
- You find yourself blaming victims. You justify harsh behavior by your pastor by focusing on the sins or weaknesses of those who are shamed or shunned or criticized or punished.
- You feel that to protect the name of Christ in your community you need to keep secret the alarming behavior by your pastor or leaders in the church.
- You feel it's your duty to think the best of your pastor, no matter what charges are brought against him (but you don't extend the same courtesy to those who feel they've been abused or harmed).
- You feel it's okay for your pastor to build up your church by criticising other churches with "inferior" doctrines or practices, but it's not okay for anyone to question decisions by church leaders if it looks like criticism.
- You enjoy being flattered by your pastor and seek to please him often. You spend a lot of time in church flattering and seeking approval from your pastor.
- You are frequently in fear of being criticized by your pastor or having your ministry in the church taken away.
- You've seen your pastor flatter those he can use and then later turn on them or ignore them.
- You would feel uncomfortable asking to see financial records of the church, and you are willing to just assume that they are being used in a godly manner.
- You feel constant pressure to help more in church or to give more, or both.
- Going to church often seems like a burden, but you don't want anyone to know you feel that way.
- You have criticized other churches or individuals with your pastor.
- You like the feeling of being in the "inner circle," and you sometimes feel you have the pastor's confidence in a way no one else does.
- You often feel a little bit superior to Christians who don't witness as much as you, or who don't practice their faith as well as you, or who don't emphasize certain doctrines as much as you do.
- You feel that no one quite understands the scriptures, delivers sermons or reaches out to the weak and poor like your pastor does.
- You spend much time defending your pastor, either in your own mind or to others
- You don't like to admit it, but you often spend more time thinking about your pastor or leaders than you do about God (whether positively, negatively or both).
- You are exhausted.
You can recognize the harm and turn from it, even if it's been a long time coming.
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I attended BFM where the pastor is Dr. Myles Munroe for over 15 years. I worked there for the last 2 years. I think my situation is different here corruption is endemic & justice rare. People protect their leaders. Leaving the church did not solve the problem. It is a small community.The members have friends, money & influence everywhere. Myles is a member of the Hospital Authority Board. I am not welcomed in any church.
He was the first TBN.I was in love with & proud of my church.
The first criticism against me was that I did not dance vigorously enough in worship service. I had to put my foot down & tell them I was not dancing for them, I was praising God.
The message from Myles talked of my being accepted & valuable. Whiles I was volunteering behind the scenes I ignored the groping that went on between unmarried men & women.
The pressure was constant to give into these men. I was troubled by this.
I asked questions about the money that was donated every year. I kept stating what the bible said whenever Myles said something contradictory.He called those who excelled in business ‘higher quality people’. That infuriated me!
Everyone got angry with me, they wanted to think they were getting ‘new revelation’ as Gods’ chosen people. I was told angrily that Myles was the leader.
I started working with some school girls , I became very upset with the married men who began touching them. I reported it but Myles preached men needed sex like a car needed gas, it was not merely something they wanted. If a married man looked outside the home you have to check with the wife because she is not satisfying him. I was their supervisor they were told to complain about me & not to do what I asked. All the pastors began throwing remarks at me. Whiles I was working in the sanctuary they heckled me.
They spread the message I was a lesbian & that is why I was celibate. They brought in a psychologist to walk through the building & tell them that I was mentally retarded that was why I did not have a mature relationship.
Pastor Debbie Bartlette slapped me when I went up for prayers. I started to fall apart emotionally. When I went home I tried to commit suicide. Debbie was standing there when the ambulance arrived. The same lies were spread at the hospital to explain why I tried to kill myself. I felt God had abandoned me.
The story is today that I fought against pastor Myles. That I am therefore cursed. I heard he has said I will die on the streets. I have been homeless twice. I have been harassed off jobs with similar treatment that I got at BFM. I have been harassed out of efficiencies & my families’ homes.
The police surrounded me when I was trying to ask for help to get something to eat one evening & one threatened to shoot me if resisted arrest for soliciting. He said by doing so he would solve Myles problems.
Two years after trying to take a landlord to court after going through the same ridiculous treatment repeatedly; meeting the room door open, my clothes cut up, belongings missing; the police picked me up a week before the trial to carry me to the hospital to verify me as a mental patient. The doctor asked if I thought people who did not believe like me were going to hell. They carried me there saying I had a visit from a nurse who used to give me a shot & I beat her up. They said I was violent. This never happened. The landlords’ daughter is a member of BFM.
I could not get one lawyer nor the man from amnesty to help me. When I was on the street the police walked around telling people I was a prostitute. Now they tell people I have not worked for 3 years because I do not want to work. So the story is I’m a lazy woman. I have been described on the talk shows so people could be warned about giving me money to help me. I know or have met most of the talk show personalities. It is a small island.
Leona, that is one of the most wretched stories of abuse I have heard. I keep thinking I have heard the worst accounts of spiritual abuse and then something like this comes along. It is common for abusive pastors to contact an escapee's current pastor to badmouth the person to the new pastor, but to have an entire community blacklist a person from church is corruption at its deepest level. At this point, are we even really talking about the church, or is it all counterfeit? Heartrending.
This community depends on pastors for references for jobs, especially government jobs ;letters to banks for approval for loans & pastors help offenders of serious crimes to get their records expunged. They are known to be corrupt but since calvinism what most people adhere to in this very immoral society this only serves to make the drug pusher, liars & sexually immoral comfortable in their sins. Therefore most still regard all who are religious leaders as Gods' anointed & it is wrong to 'touch' them. Every single pastor I've talked to have told me that my problems will go away once I forgive Myles, refuse to say anything negative about him & go back & submit. "God will lift you up & deliver you", they say.
I was feeling sort of shaky & your info & others that I've found on the web has strengthened me. I only use to see sites about cults.
Leona, if you could email me at cnnathepoet@yahoo.com, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
My prayers go out for you Leona, may the Lord pour out his grace on you.
Leona,
I hope your still reading this forum.....
I want to tell you I believe your story 100% because something very similar happened to me after I exposed a minister for viewing PORN on our church's computer system.
That minister happened to be the SR Pastor's son.....and he was the 2nd in command (Chairman of the Executive Committee) for the GBC in GA.
It is a long detail story but the bottom line is once you expose these monsters within " the Religious Mafia", you'd better have a backbone and prepare for HELL on Earth....
But you as a person can come back, just turn to GOD,pray and seek his discernment and he will direct your ways...I did and it works!
Proverbs 3: 5-6
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
If you, or anyone else, would like to speak with me please feel free to contact me at
doug@dougpittman.com
I think Provender knows of me :)
Following Christ, Not Man;
Doug Pittman
I could relate to almost all of these points. This is common behavior among the church we were on staff with for years. Thankfully we got out...but many that we love are still covering for a very abusive man...leading thousands with false doctrine and abusive behavior.
Leona's story is heartbreaking.
I covered my pastors, Jacob Aranza and Edwin Ennis, for years, and they were spiritually abusive. The problem is that they are still spiritually abusive.
I've since left the church, and began to blog about my experience, but it's been a traumatic experience leaving and trying to open up.
The more open we all are about this, the more educated people will (hopefully) become and less abuse will occur.
I also went through a similar traumatic experience that severely tested my faith.
In the church the Pastor used to encourage the flock to come for counselling. However in disclosing secrets to him was my (and others) mistake. Telling someone your deep triumphs and struggles obviously requires an effort of trust which you hope will be reciprocated by confidentiality. However this Pastor would would use that trust as a form of spiritual and emotional blackmail against his flock. He would threaten, ridicule, mock and sometimes insult those that he knew were bound to him by their trust and fears. Imagine the Pastor singling out a grown married man and telling the congregation that "If it wasn't because of my prayers and faith as pastor, this adulterous man would be dead with HIV!
The flock was literally bound with fear because it was taught " touch not my anointed".
Wow!
What a blessing to see people respond. What a blessing to read comments from people who understand & did not ask - "What did you do to cause this reaction from people."
Please pray that I would be able to leave the Bahamas. God bless you all, especially our host.
Leona,
I am really shocked with what you wrote. I have been listening to BFM for some time now and I really like the preaching but it is disappointing to hear stories like this. I hope they clean things up. I would like to ask you some more questions. This is very concerning to me as a tree is known by its fruit. Write me at crossclaim@gmail.com if you can. Thanks.
Lisa, I'd like to link to your story on Provender also. I just found it online. If, for some reason, you don't want Provender to link to it, contact me at cnnathepoet@yahoo.com and I will remove it. Thanks.
Wow- dead on. This was me ten or so years ago before I left that one- the whole "inner circle" thing is something I just wrote about in describing what happened then, before I read this.
By the way, I am sorry for my lack of blog etiquette-am new at this-, but some of your articles express my thoughts exactly, so I have linked to them without contacting you first.
Please let me know if there are any problems with me linking to your site, otherwise thanks so much for some excellent and helpful resources.
I agree I left and TD Jakes Joyce Meyers William H Curtis are all abusive pastors and a disgrace to God
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