Various sources on spiritual abuse warn about the Can't Talk rule (or the Don't Talk rule) in abusive groups. In spiritually manipulative churches, pastors don't usually come right out and tell you not to talk about certain issues. (Especially concerns in the church.) They are much more subtle.
They might hint at "the enemy" who incites people to gossip, or they may denounce weak Christians who whisper. They might blast the motives of anyone who brings a legitimate issue to the leadership, condemning them as self-centered, divisive or lazy.
They might emphasize grumbling and complaining as among the gravest of sins. They might compare those who bring up church issues to scoffers in Moses' time -- implying that if you dare mention a weakness of the church you are similar to those ungrateful Israelites that the good Moses ( read: church leader) had to put up with.
They might tell you to "get in line with the mission," "submit to authority," or "stop dividing the flock," shaming someone who brings honest questions -- in order to deflect scrutiny from themselves.
Some might tell you that you are not in harmony with "the vision or mission" of the church, which often is just a high-sounding way of saying that the leader's views are beyond question, and accountability is not the business of a mere layperson.
By whatever means available, abusive pastors will shut down discussion and prevent accountability for suspect practices. The unspoken "don't talk" rule makes this easy. Anyone who dares raise an issue to the light of day will be shut down, preached against, shunned, mistreated or shamed, either by open means or subtle means.
Perhaps some have left the church, and you wish to know why. Maybe the pastor has preached something that doesn't line up with scripture. Maybe someone has been kicked out of church or removed from a ministry. Perhaps these uncomfortable practices have been increasing. Maybe the finances are not open to public view; or business meetings are closed -- or nonexistent. Perhaps teachers or musicians have complained about mistreatment and you are not sure who to believe. A Sunday school teacher suddenly leaves or is moved elsewhere without any explanation. An elder resigns. A spouse or older child disappears and no one dares ask about it.
Those living under a Can't Talk or Don't Talk rule know not to ask questions. They have been manipulated into remaining silent, even though their active conscience urges them to speak up. The reluctance to speak up is often disguised as virtue. You're not a grumbler. You're not a troublemaker. It's someone else's place to ask questions, not yours. You're just a humble nobody.
So the pastor or leader remains accountable to no one. He can do what he likes without opposition, no matter how questionable, unorthodox, ungodly -- or in some cases, illegal.
If this describes the mechanism in place at your church, make sure to do a little research into spiritual abuse and see if other signs might not also be present in your group. The Can't Talk rule is an unspoken rule meant to stifle and hide anything that challenges the control of a leader or that has the potential to put a leader in a bad light. It is often the tip of the iceberg.
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Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Can't Talk Rule or Don't Talk Rule
Posted by Provender at Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Labels: abusive pastors, accountability, control, cult leader, dangerous churches, dangerous pastors, don't talk, punitive, speak up, spiritual abuse, taking away ministries, toxic, withdrawing ministries
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I remember the "can't talk rule" very well. Even raising minor objections was considered to be "attacking" and dissent.
I mentioned that rule in a paper I wrote and passed around to anyone who would read it (few would) when I was still a member of the Church of Bible Understanding. That letter can be read at http://cobuessays.wordpress.com/8/
Your site has extensive information on spiritual abuse. In pre-internet days, I used to find this information in the library or in Christian bookstores as well as in books on sociology, cults and organizational behavior - through which I was able to come to understand the manipulation (which was on many layers and many levels deep) that I had been subject to for most of my adult life.
Jim L.
You explain the "can't talk rule" very well. I remember it well from when I was a member of the Church of Bible Understanding. All questioning, however minor, was labeled as dissent or "attacking" or "playing games" and "looking for an easier way." Because to question even a small part of it was to question all of it. With an exclusive teacher, the only living person who knows the real truth of Christianity, everything we were hearing was God's truth. The only possible reason you might question it could only be from your desire to rebel and to reject the truth. And all the others present, not only the leader, would take part in getting on your case to reinforce that. A very powerful social system, and in a live-in group, a powerful force pinning you to the wall and keeping you in line.
You are right. Any deviation at all from the word from the cult leader or abusive pastor presents a threat to his authority or position and must be powerfully put down. It's great that you were able to find the information you needed to know what was happening to you. Even with the Internet today, it's hard to find sometimes. Churches don't talk about it and government doesn't like to get involved, so the issue stays buried. Glad you are out! Freedom. Great feeling!
Thanks for saying what is so true! Love must be honest for relationship to grow, so I don't know why churches are often so afraid of speaking out against clear injustices. This article sums up my experience in an unhealthy church in the UK, and I am currently a part of an Acts 29 church in the US. Praying they don't follow the leader, but stay focussed on Jesus...
Thanks for your comment. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in the UK. I do worry, however, about your new place. We are getting many stories recently about your new group that you might want to check on because of red flags. You might want to read these posts since Acts 29 is linked to Mars Hill and they concern that group:
http://joyfulexiles.com/2012/03/
http://marshillrefuge.blogspot.com/
http://matthewpaulturner.net/jesus-needs-new-pr/mark-driscolls-church-discipline-contract-looking-for-true-repentance-at-mars-hill-church-sign-on-the-dotted-line/
Hope it all works out for you. Also, might want to look at another Provender post on elitism, another red flag in abusive groups.
http://pureprovender.blogspot.com/2009/04/exploring-elitism.html
Thanks for those links- have actually been passing all of those links around already, and am well aware of the potential for a bad situation at my current location.
As it is, I have no intention of signing on the dotted line anywhere because I don't see a paper membership as particularly Biblical, or indeed useful at this point in our journey- we are stationed, not settled, near the church we currently attend.
I have openly communicated to our pastor about the problems I have with Mark Driscoll's behavior of late, and so far haven't been considered divisive for being honest.
One thing I would say is that just because Mark D. started Acts 29 churches doesn't make the idea of them a bad thing in itself.
What I am waiting to observe is: does the pastor and this church think that MD is their sort of Evangelical pope, untouchable in some way, or do leadership in this and other Acts 29 churches distance themselves from their unfortunate roots?
Time will tell on that one; thanks for sharing for your concerns, I feel them too.
Sounds like you've got your eyes wide open. Hope all goes well for you while you are there, and anywhere else you might be stationed.
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